From today's headlines page on David Icke's website:
Do Schizophrenics Live in Parallel Universes?
Maybe that's a question which should have been asked a long time ago, David, only perhaps the other way around. Or maybe it's a subtle way of countering your clearly observable symptoms muxed with an opportunity to market the concepts within a book you have just published.
And on the subject of books, you regularly share an interesting observation with one of your headline graphics (slightly retouched below) which could easily be levelled at your congregation. Funny how the world of the reader illustrated (who, according to the caption, is only thinking what everyone else is thinking) occupies a world which he shares with a multi-tentacled creature, weird looking potions and what appears to be a plasma coated holgram.
This is the exemplification of DIF GroupThink, is it not?
Monday, 20 January 2014
The Widow's Mite: Techniques for Effective Extraction
I have borrowed words from somebody else's thoughts which pretty much summed up a great deal of what I had wanted say about the extremely questionable values which are being exhibited at and by The People's Voice, though I have added a bit afterwards. This was originally posted on EarthlingGB's blog:
David Icke: HELP! HELP! The Reigstad’s [sic] on fire!!
stephen said, on January 19, 2014 at 10:55 pm
I very rarely visit the DIF nowadays but after hearing David Trickers video i decided to pop over and i am utterly speechless.
They begin by blaming Russel Brand. Another poster actually seems to think Alice Rothschild should chip in.
We have someone else has been off work all week glued to tpv and is going to jack in his job after secret information revealed on tpv that his employers are breaching health and safety and is to donate his last £225 to tpv And is going to sell all his belongings and give to David Icke. ARE YOU ACTUALLY GOING TO ACCEPT THIS ICKE? IF YOU DO YOU ARE A WEASEL.
Someone else thinks he needs to go to Peru for a few weeks and take some ayahuasca. DEAR GOD!
Then we have someone bumped SKY tv in order to give the money to TPV. But that is impossible. You cannot bump sky. If you dont pay they switch you off, that simple.
Someone else felt so guilty they ordered an i love David Icke t-shirt with the last of her giro. Next weeks giro is going on the perception deception.
Someone else reckons he needs more vitamin B12.
Someone else thinks more donate buttons is what is needed.
Someone else thinks smoking some weed would be good for him.
Someone else thinks it is great that since Icke made this video donations have increased by £10k.
Another two posters begin panicking the world is about to come crashing down and it is all the faults of the 99.9% of people that have never heard of the illuminati.
Someone else advocates using MK ultra techniques to manipulate the sheeple away from msm. WHAT?
Someone else says donations are now upto £74k. That is a quick £20k.
Then we have a Russel Brand mass tweet campaign to give him dogs abuse and this is advocated by a forum advisor. I HOPE RUSSEL GOES TO THE POLICE!!
Someone else has a thread suggesting the Illuminati have a Toxic mole placed inside TPV.
Another guy wants the studio cctv’d with PC’S and phones rigged and that anyone not happy being stalked orwellian stye should be sacked. MY GOD YOU COULD NOT MAKE THIS UP.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1061947445&postcount=11
Someone else reckons the government are waging war against tpv.
Someone else reckons David has the cooperates running scared. Funny how it is not them i see running around screaming HEEEEEEEELP HEEEEEEELP GIVE ME MONEY WE ARE GONNA DIEEEEEEEEEEE.
So who is scared? is the one begging for help and donations the one needs helping and suffering fear or is it the one that does not ask for help nor feel the need to recieve help that is riddled by fear?
I personally think this is new-age evangelists and nothing more annoying and destructive than those try force help on those dont want it.
They attempt to instill fear where no fear is present in order to offer their solution which is not required by people with no fear.
On a slightly different angle but not unrelated to the dubious values displayed by The People's Voice, there has been a suggestion that TPV should implement electronic surveillance in their premises to keep an eye on the staff. It has also been suggested that TPV should only use self-employed people so that they don't have to contribute towards National Insurance or have to pay for sick leave or holiday pay.
If any of The People's Voice management are reading, here is somebody who has equipment which may be able to extract mites from widows more efficiently and a technique for sofa cash removal.
David Icke: HELP! HELP! The Reigstad’s [sic] on fire!!
stephen said, on January 19, 2014 at 10:55 pm
I very rarely visit the DIF nowadays but after hearing David Trickers video i decided to pop over and i am utterly speechless.
They begin by blaming Russel Brand. Another poster actually seems to think Alice Rothschild should chip in.
We have someone else has been off work all week glued to tpv and is going to jack in his job after secret information revealed on tpv that his employers are breaching health and safety and is to donate his last £225 to tpv And is going to sell all his belongings and give to David Icke. ARE YOU ACTUALLY GOING TO ACCEPT THIS ICKE? IF YOU DO YOU ARE A WEASEL.
Someone else thinks he needs to go to Peru for a few weeks and take some ayahuasca. DEAR GOD!
Then we have someone bumped SKY tv in order to give the money to TPV. But that is impossible. You cannot bump sky. If you dont pay they switch you off, that simple.
Someone else felt so guilty they ordered an i love David Icke t-shirt with the last of her giro. Next weeks giro is going on the perception deception.
Someone else reckons he needs more vitamin B12.
Someone else thinks more donate buttons is what is needed.
Someone else thinks smoking some weed would be good for him.
Someone else thinks it is great that since Icke made this video donations have increased by £10k.
Another two posters begin panicking the world is about to come crashing down and it is all the faults of the 99.9% of people that have never heard of the illuminati.
Someone else advocates using MK ultra techniques to manipulate the sheeple away from msm. WHAT?
Someone else says donations are now upto £74k. That is a quick £20k.
Then we have a Russel Brand mass tweet campaign to give him dogs abuse and this is advocated by a forum advisor. I HOPE RUSSEL GOES TO THE POLICE!!
Someone else has a thread suggesting the Illuminati have a Toxic mole placed inside TPV.
Another guy wants the studio cctv’d with PC’S and phones rigged and that anyone not happy being stalked orwellian stye should be sacked. MY GOD YOU COULD NOT MAKE THIS UP.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1061947445&postcount=11
Someone else reckons the government are waging war against tpv.
Someone else reckons David has the cooperates running scared. Funny how it is not them i see running around screaming HEEEEEEEELP HEEEEEEELP GIVE ME MONEY WE ARE GONNA DIEEEEEEEEEEE.
So who is scared? is the one begging for help and donations the one needs helping and suffering fear or is it the one that does not ask for help nor feel the need to recieve help that is riddled by fear?
I personally think this is new-age evangelists and nothing more annoying and destructive than those try force help on those dont want it.
They attempt to instill fear where no fear is present in order to offer their solution which is not required by people with no fear.
On a slightly different angle but not unrelated to the dubious values displayed by The People's Voice, there has been a suggestion that TPV should implement electronic surveillance in their premises to keep an eye on the staff. It has also been suggested that TPV should only use self-employed people so that they don't have to contribute towards National Insurance or have to pay for sick leave or holiday pay.
If any of The People's Voice management are reading, here is somebody who has equipment which may be able to extract mites from widows more efficiently and a technique for sofa cash removal.
The People's Voice: A New Pearl Harbor [sic]
I'm not the only person to smell a rotting red herring regarding the latest wave of 'attacks' on everything linked to David Icke and TPV. I first suspected it in the first few weeks after The People's Voice started streaming - every time there was a technical hitch, or more likely, gross incompetence, the Corporal Jones figure of David Icke would start rabbiting about being under attack followed by the bleating of every other member of his flock; most of them parroting jargon which they probably did not remotely comprehend.
There were DDoS attacks, hacking and sabotage of the teleprompter. The very fact that they wer using a teleprompter whilst knocking the mainstream news media presenters for reading from scripts is just one of many sore thumbs which does not seem to have bothered those responsible for the running of TPV. Far from it being an alternative to the mainstream media, it has merely reflected it.
Then, just as it looked like The People's Voice was going to croak because those managing it had blown all the money and the ill-timed and over-ambitious telethon (just over a week after Christmas when most people are skint and asking for four times the initial target of the first appeal) was dying in the water, David Icke put out a video which most outside his claque would recognise as a transparent emotional blackmail. If people did not give more money, their grandchildren would suffer horrible painful death at the hands of the New World Order.
Now, apart from those busy fulfilling their roles as useless eaters, who would deny the threat of the New World Order or perhaps if it suits one's personal paradigm, an entity of some other name? That is not really moot here. But the self-portrait as the sobbing wounded saviour of humanity who has dedicated his life to spreading information - whilst conveniently not mentioning making a great deal of money from it and shutting down anybody who tried to share that information without him getting his whack.
This hysterical extortion was not enough, though. A day or so later, it was announced that there had been a fresh wave of attacks; all the videos on the YouTube account of The People's Voice had been deleted, the PayPal account had been hacked and the Indigogo appeal page had been defaced.
There hasn't been very much evidence of these attacks made public but it all seems a bit coincidental, convenient and not to say odd. Odd because from the perspective of most observers, the output of The People's Voice has been very poor, bland and benign - nothing like the hard hitting champion of the people which had been promised, though, to be completely fair, with one or two very notable exceptions.
So, why is there no evidence of any of this? And why are the TPV hackers the only hackers who do not parade all over the internet with evidence of their conquests; posting a screen grab of a defaced website is mandatory for a hacker. If, as I am sure David Icke would like everybody to believe, the hackers were government agents, would they not try to pass themselves off as some shady disparate bunch of geeks? Surely, they wouldn't want anybody suggesting that agents of the Crown had tried to interfere with the operations of a legitimate OfCom licensed broadcasting company.
But there is a mole, apparently, a mole who has been identified and allowed to continue operating in their midst and who will be publicly revealed in the next two weeks. Now, I think anybody would agree that knowing about an infiltrator is a definite strategic advantage in the right circumstances but surely, when one is running amok causing (supposedly) a great deal of damage to an operation, where is the advantage? Having a phantom mole is just a convenient cover story for the self-inflicted injuries that David Icke and his confederates are using to garner sympathy.
It's pretty despicable for somebody to resort to the deceitful and oppressive tactics of which they accuse tyrants.
There were DDoS attacks, hacking and sabotage of the teleprompter. The very fact that they wer using a teleprompter whilst knocking the mainstream news media presenters for reading from scripts is just one of many sore thumbs which does not seem to have bothered those responsible for the running of TPV. Far from it being an alternative to the mainstream media, it has merely reflected it.
Then, just as it looked like The People's Voice was going to croak because those managing it had blown all the money and the ill-timed and over-ambitious telethon (just over a week after Christmas when most people are skint and asking for four times the initial target of the first appeal) was dying in the water, David Icke put out a video which most outside his claque would recognise as a transparent emotional blackmail. If people did not give more money, their grandchildren would suffer horrible painful death at the hands of the New World Order.
Now, apart from those busy fulfilling their roles as useless eaters, who would deny the threat of the New World Order or perhaps if it suits one's personal paradigm, an entity of some other name? That is not really moot here. But the self-portrait as the sobbing wounded saviour of humanity who has dedicated his life to spreading information - whilst conveniently not mentioning making a great deal of money from it and shutting down anybody who tried to share that information without him getting his whack.
This hysterical extortion was not enough, though. A day or so later, it was announced that there had been a fresh wave of attacks; all the videos on the YouTube account of The People's Voice had been deleted, the PayPal account had been hacked and the Indigogo appeal page had been defaced.
There hasn't been very much evidence of these attacks made public but it all seems a bit coincidental, convenient and not to say odd. Odd because from the perspective of most observers, the output of The People's Voice has been very poor, bland and benign - nothing like the hard hitting champion of the people which had been promised, though, to be completely fair, with one or two very notable exceptions.
So, why is there no evidence of any of this? And why are the TPV hackers the only hackers who do not parade all over the internet with evidence of their conquests; posting a screen grab of a defaced website is mandatory for a hacker. If, as I am sure David Icke would like everybody to believe, the hackers were government agents, would they not try to pass themselves off as some shady disparate bunch of geeks? Surely, they wouldn't want anybody suggesting that agents of the Crown had tried to interfere with the operations of a legitimate OfCom licensed broadcasting company.
But there is a mole, apparently, a mole who has been identified and allowed to continue operating in their midst and who will be publicly revealed in the next two weeks. Now, I think anybody would agree that knowing about an infiltrator is a definite strategic advantage in the right circumstances but surely, when one is running amok causing (supposedly) a great deal of damage to an operation, where is the advantage? Having a phantom mole is just a convenient cover story for the self-inflicted injuries that David Icke and his confederates are using to garner sympathy.
It's pretty despicable for somebody to resort to the deceitful and oppressive tactics of which they accuse tyrants.
Alex Jones vs the Israeli Defense Force Fanatic at the JFK Memorial Demonstration
I am a bit late with this one as I should have posted it in November when it happened but there were other things which were demanding my attention.
Like many, I suppose, having little better to do on a rainy Friday afternoon, I found myself watching a live stream of the protests in Dallas, Texas to commemorate the fiftieth anniversary of the assassination of John F Kennedy.
Everything was as might have been expected, Alex Jones was mouthing off to a loyal mob of listeners who had turned up to get his autograph or touch his coat tails and there was a bit of argy-bargy with the police which happened mainly off camera and was over so quickly that I missed it.
But there was one protester who followed Jones waving an Israeli flag which made me both curious and uncomfortable. It's a bit of an acknowledged truism that Alex Jone never speaks out against Israel's atrocities against the Palestinians nor does he ever give truc to any notion that Israel may have had any involvement in September 11th attacks despite volumous evidence which deserves attention if not thorough scrutiny.
Eventually, as can be seen in the following video at 3h 50m 47s, Jones asks the man with the flag why he has it and the man replies that Israel has the best army in the world, it was the perfect opportunity for him to draw attention, should it be of any concern him, to the oppression and slaughter of the Palestinians but he didn’t, he simply agreed that it was a very strong trained military.
I feel quite certain that his role is to divert attention from all Israel’s malfeasance and point the finger in any expediently different direction. After many years wondering about Alex Jones, this was the moment that the penny dropped.
Like many, I suppose, having little better to do on a rainy Friday afternoon, I found myself watching a live stream of the protests in Dallas, Texas to commemorate the fiftieth anniversary of the assassination of John F Kennedy.
Everything was as might have been expected, Alex Jones was mouthing off to a loyal mob of listeners who had turned up to get his autograph or touch his coat tails and there was a bit of argy-bargy with the police which happened mainly off camera and was over so quickly that I missed it.
But there was one protester who followed Jones waving an Israeli flag which made me both curious and uncomfortable. It's a bit of an acknowledged truism that Alex Jone never speaks out against Israel's atrocities against the Palestinians nor does he ever give truc to any notion that Israel may have had any involvement in September 11th attacks despite volumous evidence which deserves attention if not thorough scrutiny.
Eventually, as can be seen in the following video at 3h 50m 47s, Jones asks the man with the flag why he has it and the man replies that Israel has the best army in the world, it was the perfect opportunity for him to draw attention, should it be of any concern him, to the oppression and slaughter of the Palestinians but he didn’t, he simply agreed that it was a very strong trained military.
I feel quite certain that his role is to divert attention from all Israel’s malfeasance and point the finger in any expediently different direction. After many years wondering about Alex Jones, this was the moment that the penny dropped.
The People's Voice T-Shirt Ideas Which Were Rejected
I've just come out of a long meeting with executives at The People's Voice* having tried to persuade them to accept my T-shirt ideas but unfortunately they were outvoted by the Ché Icke baseball cap and the I Like Icke button badge. Still, if they change their minds, I'll post them here for their reconsideration.
Firstly, here is a design which is exclusivley for donors to The People's Voice.
Firstly, here is a design which is exclusivley for donors to The People's Voice.
Then we have a little reminder of how it all began.
Finally, my personal favourite, which has multi-layered subtlety. For anybody struggling with this one, there is an explanation hidden below.
*Not really.
This is the barcode from David Icke's book, '...and the truth shall set you free'.
The truth is that everything about David Icke reeks of hypocrisy from the barcode on his books which are sold on Amazon to his exhotion that everything including money is an illusuion to his extortion of hard cash from his followers with television evangelist style emotional blackmail. From his claims of giving the people an uncensored voice whilst his forum administrators and moderators weild Stalinist
powers deleting and banning dissent and his utter compliance with authority such as obtaining an OfCom license for TPV and paying his poll tax whilst advocating that people do not comply.
Thursday, 9 January 2014
Did you ever wonder why nobody checks David Icke's work?
There is shit flying in all directions regarding The People's Voice and the not wholly inexpected departure of one of its stars - the factors involved were far too volatile for there to be peace and love.
But whilst the aroows rain down on both sides, it's reassuring that David Icke, with true goalkeeping discipline, has not taken his eye off the ball. He is maintaining a steady output of thoroughly researched articles for his site's headlines page. And there, in the midst of the news stories for today, 9th January 2014, is the following image:
Such risible rubbish is standard fayre on David Icke's headlines page but also throughout his prolific canon which none of his disciples ever bother to check. This excellent piece by Martin Frost from five years ago must have escaped David Icke's attention otherwise he would have heeded its advice.
http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/third_section/check-your-sources.html
Finally, there is plenty of comment elsewhere on the current state of chaos at The People's Voice, without any need for my input, perhaps the most cogent of which is earthlinggb's blog here:
http://earthlinggb.wordpress.com
But whilst the aroows rain down on both sides, it's reassuring that David Icke, with true goalkeeping discipline, has not taken his eye off the ball. He is maintaining a steady output of thoroughly researched articles for his site's headlines page. And there, in the midst of the news stories for today, 9th January 2014, is the following image:
You will notice that the caption asks, 'Did you ever wonder why "Latin" was removed from STATE schools?' It is not really clear why the word Latin is wrapped in quotation marks or indeed why the word STATE needs to be shouted. But anyway, the image then shows the coat of arms of the City of London or, more precisely, the City of London Corporation, as opposed to the actual city of London itself.
Anyway, that hors d'oeuvres of pedantry out of the way, on to the plat principal. The motto on the coat of arms reads, 'DOMINE DIRIGE NOS' and below the image is a list of suggested translations of the Latin motto which appear to assert that the motto means something about mistress or domination dividing or destroying us.
Well, the first word is not far from being a rough translation, it's actually the wrong gender as it translates as lord. However, the second word is misspeled in the list (right next to the word itself) and instead of being spelled dirige is spelled diripio and so any translation of this is irrelevant because it isn't even the right word.
Nos is corectly translated as us.
So, whilst this image tells those who will not bother to check (i.e. probably every devotee of David Icke) that the motto translates as something akin to mistress destroy us or tyranny divides us what it actually means is. lord guide us; a fact which can easily be verified with any online Latin translator if you don't happen to have a Latin scholar at hand. And if you can't find an online tranlator, there is always Google:
http://translate.google.com/#la/en/domine%20dirige%20nos
Such risible rubbish is standard fayre on David Icke's headlines page but also throughout his prolific canon which none of his disciples ever bother to check. This excellent piece by Martin Frost from five years ago must have escaped David Icke's attention otherwise he would have heeded its advice.
http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/third_section/check-your-sources.html
Finally, there is plenty of comment elsewhere on the current state of chaos at The People's Voice, without any need for my input, perhaps the most cogent of which is earthlinggb's blog here:
http://earthlinggb.wordpress.com
Saturday, 4 January 2014
The People's Voice - a slight throat infection
It seems there may be laryngitis at The People’s Voice - all is not well.
Whilst I am critical of much of the way The People’s Voice operates, I generally think the idea is a good one - so good, in fact, that I had it myself in 2002 in the run up to the war on Iraq but learned that many people live in a ‘can’t be done’ paradigm. Thos same people tried to stand in my and other people’s way to stop us from taking other positive steps but failure was theirs.
There is a massive difference between standing in the way and trying to prevent something and offering constructive criticism - though, of course, constructive criticism may not be received as intended - especially if the recipient is as prickly as some. But when that constructive criticism is ignored and consequences unfold accordingly, it would only be with massive restraint or indifference that the constructive criticism did not turn negative.
From the outset, an from well beforehand as stated, I have thought that something along the lines of The People’s Voice was an excellent idea. However, having somebody like David Icke as its figurehead was a fundamental error. There is no way that David Icke is going to shake off the reptilian/hollow Moon albatross, the rotting carcass of which poisons the well of what is coyly called the ‘truth movement’. In fact, just in case the corpse has sunk into the sediment, David Icke will periodically stir it up again. Even most of the members of David Icke’s forum (who are, as will be shown later, completely ignored) do not believe in this stuff - so why does David Icke maintain it as the bedrock what he professes and, perhaps more importantly, why does he have so many followers who actually think that what he says is a load of bollocks? And if his they don’t actually believe what he professes, his lack of credibility beyond his following is a serious liability.
As far as The People’s Voice is concerned, it would appear that its days may be numbered unless it takes a radical tack to avoid the rocks. The second ‘telethon’, which took place on the first Friday after the Christmas and New Year break when most people have either spent up or have got themselves in so much debt to satisfy the consumer needs with which they have conditioned their children and a mere week or so from what has become known as ‘Blue Monday’, the most depressing day of the year, raised just over £6,000 towards its 30 day target of £400,000. The current campaign is labelled as ‘flexible funding’, unlike the ‘fixed funding’ of the original campaign. It’s unclear how a campaign is nominated for flexible funding but essentially, it means that the funds are released at the end of the campaign whether or not the target is met - as things stand, it seems unlikely that £13,333 per day will be raised when only £6,000 has been raised in the 24 hours following the telethon.
So, what has gone wrong? Why does an internet based television station which had initially asked for £100,000 but received £300,000 suddenly found itself in urgent need for another £400,000? The answer to that may remain a mystery because despite the fact that the project was funded by donations, David Icke and his business partner, Sean Adl-Tabatabai, do not seem to think that the transparency which would be expected of any other entity dealing with public money is necessary.
Discrepancies in the scant figures have been revealed by those who have volunteered at the Wembley headquarters of The People’s Voice and no account has been made of what became of the £300,000 especially in light of the much celebrated studio equipment being acquired for a song, in relative terms:
David Icke: And the little question about approximately £270K of profit from donations
It is also apparent from many posts on the David Icke forum that the incentive gifts from the first telethon which began at the end of May 2013 have not yet materialised. Unfortunately, it looks like some of the money which they are hoping to raise now may have to be used to pay for the incentives which were promised eight months ago. This is the territory of absurd and the way that government budget is treated like a family paying their household bills with a credit card. National debt spirals off into the invisible distant future, to infinity and beyond.
Let us not forget, at this point, that David Icke professes that money is an illusion. Despite the fact that David Icke claims that everything is a hologram he does not offer an explanation why he needs money if everything, including money, is imaginary but the argument, which percolates via his acolytes, seems to be that we are living in the real world. This kind of inconsistency is what one might expect from a cult leader, surely, not somebody who claims to have the answers to release us from the shackles of our enslavement.
David Icke posts stories on his headlines page every day of the abject poverty in which many people are forced to live these days. If he were to venture into his own forum, he might notice that many of the people who post are amongst those who are struggling most of all. He seems to be asking them to give up their meagre income (even as little as a pound a month) so that he can build his vanity castle in the sky.
Since its launch, The People’s Voice has been riddled with problems, perhaps the most serious for a media company being dead air, long periods - sometimes hours on end - of blackness and silence or, if we were lucky, an endless graphic loop. The audio is often awful and mixed so badly that it is impossible to listen. There are self-promoting adverts which come on straight after low audio and practically rupture speakers. It has been suggested that these audio levels may even breach the OfCom regulations to which The People’s Voice controversially agreed by being licensed. But the main question here has to be, is nobody actually monitoring what is going out? It would be a massive oversight if nobody is because nobody seems to take a blind bit of notice what anybody outside the cl-ICKE says.
The best bit of unintentional self parody, by the way, was Gareth Icke’s shot to camera during one of the promotional videos saying, ‘…who needs rules? BLEEP rules!’
There is no tolerance of criticism - anybody who does air their feelings on the David Icke forum, for example, is castigated and put on the spot to justify themselves and say how much money they have donated or what they have done to support The People’s Voice. But there is a strong feeling that it is The People’s Voice in name only and that nobody who is not directly involved is heard.
The published schedule rarely bears any resemblance to what is actually broadcast - it would not be difficult for anybody with a very slight knowledge to edit a web page to reflect what had been lined up to be shown. The office looks full of computers which are surely all connected to the internet.
Threads on his website forum are abundant with posts from people who have offered their skills to The People’s Voice and have not received so much as an acknowledgement. The staff is furnished with people who were already connected in one way or another to David Icke or Sean Adl-Tabatabai so it seems impossible for anybody with real technical knowledge, skills and experience to get their foot in the door.
There is a minor revolt on the David Icke forum about the continued inclusion in the schedule of the phoney psychic, Monica Sepulveda who has upset many people with her rudeness whilst demonstrating her ineptitude at even cold reading callers. As one forum poster pointed out, ‘she gave a reading for [a] guys dead dad. It turns out it was actually his brother that had died and she'd misheard, his dad was alive and well and sat next to him’. But as another has also claimed. ‘She's also a 'friend' of Icke's, so look likes she's staying.’
Some of the programmes can be quite interesting and informative one minute and the next minute let somebody with significant questions to answer slip through their fingers - the perfect example of this being Richie Allen’s cosy chat with Edwina Currie of whom he failed to demand explanation the uninvestigated revelation in her autobiography that ‘…he’s what they call a “noted pederast”, with a liking for young boys. He admitted as much . . . when he became deputy chairman of the party but added: “However, I’m very discreet” — and he must be!’ going on to say that the then Prime Minister, Margaret Thatcher was aware of his ways.
Other presenters can be very unconvincing. On her recent and highly acclaimed (by David Icke’s forum followers) visit to the anti-fracking demonstration at Barton Moss, Sonia Poulton started to say that the real agenda behind fracking was a mass depopulation programme. When she was asked (quite understandably and in a very friendly way - she was at an anti-fracking demonstration, after all) how depopulation, vaccination and GMO foods related to fracking, there was a moment of passive aggression when she said sarcastically and with a poignant hand gesture, ‘is this forty questions? because I don’t mind’. Unfortunately, she sounded like she was trying to recite something which might have been written by David Icke and stumbled around key words and phrases like ‘Agenda 21’ and ‘killing by stealth’ in a way which made it sound like she wanted to be seen to know what she was talking about without actually synthesising any of her own thoughts - possibly having to ween herself off the autocue. Sonia Poulton can be a good presenter when she is on her own territory but very often she looks out of her depth - especially when she is parroting David Icke. What does he repeat about repeaters.
Whilst it is very clear that the venture is being very poorly managed from the apex down, expect another very stern talking to from David Icke very soon to tell you that you are not providing enough money to keep The People’s Voice going and to be made to feel guilty that The People’s Voice may not continue for much longer. And as you are recoiling from every lash of David Icke’s tongue, take a little time to reflect on the way that the poor and underprivileged have been made to take the brunt for the government’s mismanagement of the economy and the crimes of those in institutions which are beyond reproach.
Whilst I am critical of much of the way The People’s Voice operates, I generally think the idea is a good one - so good, in fact, that I had it myself in 2002 in the run up to the war on Iraq but learned that many people live in a ‘can’t be done’ paradigm. Thos same people tried to stand in my and other people’s way to stop us from taking other positive steps but failure was theirs.
There is a massive difference between standing in the way and trying to prevent something and offering constructive criticism - though, of course, constructive criticism may not be received as intended - especially if the recipient is as prickly as some. But when that constructive criticism is ignored and consequences unfold accordingly, it would only be with massive restraint or indifference that the constructive criticism did not turn negative.
From the outset, an from well beforehand as stated, I have thought that something along the lines of The People’s Voice was an excellent idea. However, having somebody like David Icke as its figurehead was a fundamental error. There is no way that David Icke is going to shake off the reptilian/hollow Moon albatross, the rotting carcass of which poisons the well of what is coyly called the ‘truth movement’. In fact, just in case the corpse has sunk into the sediment, David Icke will periodically stir it up again. Even most of the members of David Icke’s forum (who are, as will be shown later, completely ignored) do not believe in this stuff - so why does David Icke maintain it as the bedrock what he professes and, perhaps more importantly, why does he have so many followers who actually think that what he says is a load of bollocks? And if his they don’t actually believe what he professes, his lack of credibility beyond his following is a serious liability.
As far as The People’s Voice is concerned, it would appear that its days may be numbered unless it takes a radical tack to avoid the rocks. The second ‘telethon’, which took place on the first Friday after the Christmas and New Year break when most people have either spent up or have got themselves in so much debt to satisfy the consumer needs with which they have conditioned their children and a mere week or so from what has become known as ‘Blue Monday’, the most depressing day of the year, raised just over £6,000 towards its 30 day target of £400,000. The current campaign is labelled as ‘flexible funding’, unlike the ‘fixed funding’ of the original campaign. It’s unclear how a campaign is nominated for flexible funding but essentially, it means that the funds are released at the end of the campaign whether or not the target is met - as things stand, it seems unlikely that £13,333 per day will be raised when only £6,000 has been raised in the 24 hours following the telethon.
So, what has gone wrong? Why does an internet based television station which had initially asked for £100,000 but received £300,000 suddenly found itself in urgent need for another £400,000? The answer to that may remain a mystery because despite the fact that the project was funded by donations, David Icke and his business partner, Sean Adl-Tabatabai, do not seem to think that the transparency which would be expected of any other entity dealing with public money is necessary.
Discrepancies in the scant figures have been revealed by those who have volunteered at the Wembley headquarters of The People’s Voice and no account has been made of what became of the £300,000 especially in light of the much celebrated studio equipment being acquired for a song, in relative terms:
David Icke: And the little question about approximately £270K of profit from donations
It is also apparent from many posts on the David Icke forum that the incentive gifts from the first telethon which began at the end of May 2013 have not yet materialised. Unfortunately, it looks like some of the money which they are hoping to raise now may have to be used to pay for the incentives which were promised eight months ago. This is the territory of absurd and the way that government budget is treated like a family paying their household bills with a credit card. National debt spirals off into the invisible distant future, to infinity and beyond.
Let us not forget, at this point, that David Icke professes that money is an illusion. Despite the fact that David Icke claims that everything is a hologram he does not offer an explanation why he needs money if everything, including money, is imaginary but the argument, which percolates via his acolytes, seems to be that we are living in the real world. This kind of inconsistency is what one might expect from a cult leader, surely, not somebody who claims to have the answers to release us from the shackles of our enslavement.
David Icke posts stories on his headlines page every day of the abject poverty in which many people are forced to live these days. If he were to venture into his own forum, he might notice that many of the people who post are amongst those who are struggling most of all. He seems to be asking them to give up their meagre income (even as little as a pound a month) so that he can build his vanity castle in the sky.
Since its launch, The People’s Voice has been riddled with problems, perhaps the most serious for a media company being dead air, long periods - sometimes hours on end - of blackness and silence or, if we were lucky, an endless graphic loop. The audio is often awful and mixed so badly that it is impossible to listen. There are self-promoting adverts which come on straight after low audio and practically rupture speakers. It has been suggested that these audio levels may even breach the OfCom regulations to which The People’s Voice controversially agreed by being licensed. But the main question here has to be, is nobody actually monitoring what is going out? It would be a massive oversight if nobody is because nobody seems to take a blind bit of notice what anybody outside the cl-ICKE says.
The best bit of unintentional self parody, by the way, was Gareth Icke’s shot to camera during one of the promotional videos saying, ‘…who needs rules? BLEEP rules!’
There is no tolerance of criticism - anybody who does air their feelings on the David Icke forum, for example, is castigated and put on the spot to justify themselves and say how much money they have donated or what they have done to support The People’s Voice. But there is a strong feeling that it is The People’s Voice in name only and that nobody who is not directly involved is heard.
The published schedule rarely bears any resemblance to what is actually broadcast - it would not be difficult for anybody with a very slight knowledge to edit a web page to reflect what had been lined up to be shown. The office looks full of computers which are surely all connected to the internet.
Threads on his website forum are abundant with posts from people who have offered their skills to The People’s Voice and have not received so much as an acknowledgement. The staff is furnished with people who were already connected in one way or another to David Icke or Sean Adl-Tabatabai so it seems impossible for anybody with real technical knowledge, skills and experience to get their foot in the door.
There is a minor revolt on the David Icke forum about the continued inclusion in the schedule of the phoney psychic, Monica Sepulveda who has upset many people with her rudeness whilst demonstrating her ineptitude at even cold reading callers. As one forum poster pointed out, ‘she gave a reading for [a] guys dead dad. It turns out it was actually his brother that had died and she'd misheard, his dad was alive and well and sat next to him’. But as another has also claimed. ‘She's also a 'friend' of Icke's, so look likes she's staying.’
Some of the programmes can be quite interesting and informative one minute and the next minute let somebody with significant questions to answer slip through their fingers - the perfect example of this being Richie Allen’s cosy chat with Edwina Currie of whom he failed to demand explanation the uninvestigated revelation in her autobiography that ‘…he’s what they call a “noted pederast”, with a liking for young boys. He admitted as much . . . when he became deputy chairman of the party but added: “However, I’m very discreet” — and he must be!’ going on to say that the then Prime Minister, Margaret Thatcher was aware of his ways.
Other presenters can be very unconvincing. On her recent and highly acclaimed (by David Icke’s forum followers) visit to the anti-fracking demonstration at Barton Moss, Sonia Poulton started to say that the real agenda behind fracking was a mass depopulation programme. When she was asked (quite understandably and in a very friendly way - she was at an anti-fracking demonstration, after all) how depopulation, vaccination and GMO foods related to fracking, there was a moment of passive aggression when she said sarcastically and with a poignant hand gesture, ‘is this forty questions? because I don’t mind’. Unfortunately, she sounded like she was trying to recite something which might have been written by David Icke and stumbled around key words and phrases like ‘Agenda 21’ and ‘killing by stealth’ in a way which made it sound like she wanted to be seen to know what she was talking about without actually synthesising any of her own thoughts - possibly having to ween herself off the autocue. Sonia Poulton can be a good presenter when she is on her own territory but very often she looks out of her depth - especially when she is parroting David Icke. What does he repeat about repeaters.
Whilst it is very clear that the venture is being very poorly managed from the apex down, expect another very stern talking to from David Icke very soon to tell you that you are not providing enough money to keep The People’s Voice going and to be made to feel guilty that The People’s Voice may not continue for much longer. And as you are recoiling from every lash of David Icke’s tongue, take a little time to reflect on the way that the poor and underprivileged have been made to take the brunt for the government’s mismanagement of the economy and the crimes of those in institutions which are beyond reproach.
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